Advent altro .....where to

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Advent altro .....where to

Postby Gutsy » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:09 pm

Where to find an adaptor?

I have an advent altro ......
Image

The adaptor is caput and i need to buy a new one. The problem is there just doesn't seem to be one out there.
curry's...dixons....pcworld. Forget it!! they are a waste of space.. shame i didn't realise this when i bought it!!

The adaptor spec for this laptop is
Model: ADP-65HB AD
Manufacturer: Delta Electronics
Input: 100-240v
1.5A
Output: 20v
3.25A

(I can't even get a response from delta electronics!! )

The problem is the connection to the laptop. There are several adaptors out there of this spec but not one with the correct connection. which looks like this....... Image

Can anyone assist me with this?

I have even wached ebay for the last month hoping to pic up a spare repair advent with this charger included to no avail.

Please help if you can....there nothing wrong with the laptop except i can't charge it to use it!!!
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby Ranibeke » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:28 pm

The Advent Altro is an EliteSystems (ECS) T30IL which was first made about 15 months ago. Have you tried contacting the DSG spares people, Partmaster?
Link http://www.partmaster.co.uk/cgi-bin/pne ... nd=&model=

Is it still in warranty?
If not you still have consumer law to fall back on.
The Dixons Stores group who own the Advent brand should ensure spares like chargers are available as without it the notebook is useless. I would write to DSG head office rejecting the notebook as not fit for purpose as the charger has failed and there are no replacements available.
Give them say 14 days to supply a charger or insist on a full refund.
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby Gutsy » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:43 pm

Yes i've tried partmaster. I've got an ongoing battle with the techguys trying to source it too but still no luck. I've been instore demanding a refund for this exact reason...not fit for purpose etc.
You would think that a wire breaking internaly at the laptop end of the cable was something that had never happend before. They won't entertain doing anything as it is concidered accidental damage. I can *spam word* that ...fair enough but its really frustrating that they can't supply A NEW ONE FOR ME TO PURCHASE.


I am at the moment seeking advice from trading standards about this matter. I can't believe they are allowed to sell pc's without any follow up spares. This one was purchased dec 09 as an xmas pressie for my daughter, This happend a month ago so not even a yr old yet.
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby Ranibeke » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:13 pm

I would challenge their assertion that it is accidental damage. More like bad design using too thin cable and no strain relief at the connector judging by your pics.
I would take it further than local store "TechGuys" and deal with DSG head office complaints dept. in writing.
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby Gutsy » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:18 pm

That is my next step i think, I am having no luck at all at store level. Even the managers just act dumb shrug their shoulders and say sorry nothing we can do. I have been so restrained so far in making use of this laptop as a frame for one of their heads lol...its sooooooooo frustrating!!
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby cobblers » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:00 pm

Gutsy wrote:Where to find an adaptor?

I have an advent altro ......
Image

The adaptor is caput and i need to buy a new one. The problem is there just doesn't seem to be one out there.
curry's...dixons....pcworld. Forget it!! they are a waste of space.. shame i didn't realise this when i bought it!!

The adaptor spec for this laptop is
Model: ADP-65HB AD
Manufacturer: Delta Electronics
Input: 100-240v
1.5A
Output: 20v
3.25A

(I can't even get a response from delta electronics!! )

The problem is the connection to the laptop. There are several adaptors out there of this spec but not one with the correct connection. which looks like this....... Image

Can anyone assist me with this?

I have even wached ebay for the last month hoping to pic up a spare repair advent with this charger included to no avail.

Please help if you can....there nothing wrong with the laptop except i can't charge it to use it!!!


Hi mate been looking for one of these adaptors as well...., my mate got it just before xmas last year, off his brother, but no receipt can be found, trying to find bank statements to prove its still under warranty.... if any luck will forward details on..!!
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby mysterious stranger » Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:25 am

I love this laptop apart from the laggy keyboard, so much that I actually have 4.... and had a feeling something like this might happen hence having my own boxed spare - when DSG dropped the price from £799 to £300 in a matter of months I kept noticing the price drop and finding something 'wrong' with my current ones to get refunds within 28 days to buy another. It got a bit harder to find the stock towards the end... Cheapest I got was the celeron model for £200 with cosmetic scratches. They make good hackintoshes. I've even got the add-on battery... But anyway...

All the ebay sellers seem to think the Roma et al adapters fit the Altro :-(

We know it doesn't.

But there is a solution ( if you still have your ethernet dongle adapter ) - the charger plugs into this to feed the laptop when using the dongle, so if we were to open the dongle up it would be possible to splice a suitable non-altro adapter in to supply the power and connect through the dongle adapter to the laptop.

I *have* a spare already ( and sorry, but I'm keeping it with my spare battery! ) but am more than happy to experiment on my spare dongle adapter if anybody would be interested? If it's easy I might also do it for others on an exchange basis for your adapter + a suitable new donor laptop charger + donation to cancer research. Please post here if interested.

As for people trying to take them back, stick to your guns! Contact trading standards, write a letter to DSG head office and say you will have the adapter independantly tested by an electrical engineer and will sue DSG in the small claims court for the cost of the laptop and your costs in bringing the action.
It would be fairly straightforward based on the AWG gauge of the cable to prove it's not accidental damage if the mains adapter fails. The lack of strain relief at the plug is something of a design flaw IMO. Unless there is an obvious cut in the cable seriously, stand your ground.

Don't worry too much about finding the receipt - the model only launched IIRC August 2009 and DSG *can* do a receipt trace from *any* store given the date you bought it assuming (unlike me) you don't complain when they ask for your home address etc... It takes less time to search from the store you bought it in though. And remember a DSG sales receipt is not the only thing that counts as a 'proof of purchase' - so if they can't or won't find it - go to your card company as they may be jointly liable under the consumer credit act if it's a credit card or may have their own policy in place if a debit card, or be able to provide a visa transaction number to 'help' DSG find it.

Please post any updates here. And don't trust DSG!

Richard

('HP accredited platform specialist - Servicing HP Desktops, Workstations and Notebooks' amongst other stuff. And yes, I've had an Altro in bits. Don't try it unless you have lots of guitar plectrums handy!)

EDIT: Just checked the website of another company that badged this laptop - Olidata ( the 'uleader design' on the bottom casing is their design company) and it seems they've already thought of my idea!

http://www.altroview.com/?module=produc ... sory&pid=1

Altro® Mini Port Replicator is a cheap and handy cable management and additional connectivity solution for your Altro notebook. Simply plug in your Altro Multi Function Connector (MFC) cable to get access to your external monitor, Internet connection/LAN, USB devices.

- 2 USB 2.0 ports
- 1 VGA port
- 1 Ethernet 10/100/1000
- Alternative power supply <----------------------------------------- which looks like a standard laptop adapter barrel from the pic, and explains why all the eBay sellers think the Roma et al adapters fit! 'Cos they do with the redesigned dongle :idea:

Also going back to DSG - I think they knew there was a potential issue - as the shelf life of a laptop model is usually 9-12 months dropping slowly in price until stocks run out, not 3 months and dropping £50 a week to shift them. The olidata units are still sold in mainland europe, with newer CPU's and in other colours and it would seem a redesigned dongle to use other mains adapters and possible a redesigned mains adapter as well.
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby mysterious stranger » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:02 pm

Cracked it! Success! We already have the ability to plug a barrel type adapter into the dongle!!!!!!

Opened one up today ( noticing there was a moulded circle on the plastic near where the socket looks on the italian website) and....

THE SOCKET IS THERE!!!!!!

2 philips screws to undo underneath the silver label ( feel the holes with your finger and poke theough - they only need to be undone not removed ) and then a knife to prise the casing apart and voila!

Lord knows why they covered it up.....

If I knew how to post pics I would.

Next step, drill or melt through with a soldering iron the blanker plate to reveal the socket to the outside world, re-assemble, and charge your laptop through it with a suitable adapter!!!

Hurrah!

Richard
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby Ranibeke » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:26 pm

Good news for owners but DSGi should not be allowed to escape their responsibilities.
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Can you upload images to something like tinypic and link to here please
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby mysterious stranger » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:43 am

Ranibeke wrote:Good news for owners but DSGi should not be allowed to escape their responsibilities.
Mysterious Stranger
Can you upload images to something like tinypic and link to here please


I agree entirely re: DSG. I'll dig out my soldering iron to make the hole and check I have a suitable adapter ( should do ;-) to test with and I'll take some pics for those in the future who are out of warranty and google onto this. I was hoping for a space on the board for the socket and to be able to solder one in but the socket there and connected is a good result - I did briefly check continuity over the connection so it is hooked up. Seems very odd to blank this off on purpose when other countries' non DSG supplied models have it available.

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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby Gutsy » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:00 am

I had a good look at the external port attatchment myself and wonderd if something like this could be done. I doubt i could of done it myself but was on the verge of giving it to someone to play with to see what they could do.

To update.....After getting in touch with trading standards i can tell you that no retailer has any *legal* obligation to supply spares for any particular product.
A product not being fit for purpose ie the cable being to thin, lack of strain protection etc etc on the adaptor is a problem but would prove very costly in legal fees etc to challenge.

After several emails back and forth with the techguys and getting nowhere fast i popped an email off to head office at dsg, curry's customer sevices, and pc worlds customer services. I included a lot of blah blah blah but also some of the emails sent to me from the techguys advising me what i could do....ie have a go at taking apart and soldering wires together myself and more along those lines. Very professional service support there in black and white signed sealed and deliverd to my inbox.

Two days later i get a *spam word* new adaptor dropped through my letterbox, no note with it no nothing. hmmmm i wonderd what was going on but after checking my emails it was obvious. A short note saying an adaptor had been sent out to me from the techguys.
I've not had a reply from head office or customer services at all but i'm guessing actions speak louder than words and they hope the problem has gone away? haha not so likely i'm now in the process of trying to get the techguys to divulge where they got the adaptor from as even they couldn't find one when it was just a mere customer asking.
The packaging it arrived in had a part number barcode on it but after doing several searches i can't match it to anything.
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby sian812 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:25 pm

Hello :)
Unfortunately a week or so ago the same has happened to my Advent Altro and indeed it is becoming a struggle to find a new charger. I just wondere if you could help me to get a new one as there is ongoing coursework on there which needs to be printed and 'what-not'.
Hope you can help x
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby jimmy......p » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:29 am

i found something but not to sure let me know if you find it onthis link i beliece its the top product... http://www.laptopbits.co.uk/Database_fi ... dapter.htm
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Re: Advent altro .....where to

Postby Gutsy » Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:13 am

jimmy......p wrote:i found something but not to sure let me know if you find it onthis link i beliece its the top product... http://www.laptopbits.co.uk/Database_fi ... dapter.htm



I remember emailing this company with all the details and spec including pictures of the actual plug end needed. Like every other they have sevral chargers that meet the spec required for input/output amps/watts etc etc. The problem is the actual connector to the laptop itself not being of the round standard type.

Just to update....despite several more mails and calls to the techguys after recieving the replacemnt, No one would tell me where they got the part from. All i can conclude is they either swiped one from a new laptop they had left in stock or it was one they had round the workshp for their own use.

I hope all those that have this problem manage to get sorted out but i think when this one breaks as the last did the lappy will be used as a frizby!! :)
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Re: power supply advent altro

Postby ronk471 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:05 pm

i bought a single power supply cable equivilent to the existing one on the advent altro
the dongle has a single point connection it is hidden under the cover open or make a hole with a drill but be carefull
i did this and it works fine the dongle is far stronger a fit into the computor read previous replys and you will see other users have found this
pity all the so called stores do not tell us this option
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